Comments on: Bits from the Eee PC team, Spring 2009 http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/ debian, eeepc, kids & f/oss software Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:40:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Worried About http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Worried About Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:52:11 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-153 I was wondering... Asus Dumps Linux From The Eee: http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/asus-dumps-linux-from-the-eee-1270 I was wondering…

Asus Dumps Linux From The Eee:

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]]> By: Of Course Debian Rules http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Of Course Debian Rules Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:57:31 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-143 @Harry Barracuda, do you really need to insult? We Linux users want pre-installed Linux machines OR Microsoft-Free machines because we don't want to pay Microsoft extortionist tax. @Harry Barracuda, do you really need to insult?

We Linux users want pre-installed Linux machines OR Microsoft-Free machines because we don’t want to pay Microsoft extortionist tax.

]]> By: Asus Hater http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-141 Asus Hater Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:44:51 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-141 Ben Armstrong, You've persuaded me that their misdeeds may be due to ignorance of the issues or unawareness that issues exist and truly being hostile can inhibit communication. I still have strong doubt their disregard for generous and community conscious free/libre open source software (FLOSS) licensing is due to innocent causes. There is another Taiwanese company which is an admirable example of FLOS software and hardware contribution and community involvement: First International Computer (FIC). http://www.fic.com.tw/ They founded the OpenMoko project which has been exemplary (http://www.openmoko.org/) and which provides FLOSS and open hardware designs. Additionally, they also produce computers which are more directly Eee PC alternatives. I would think that even those who refrain from deriding Asus, would have more desire to see good contributors like HP or FIC flourish. Ben Armstrong,
You’ve persuaded me that their misdeeds may be due to ignorance of the issues or unawareness that issues exist and truly being hostile can inhibit communication. I still have strong doubt their disregard for generous and community conscious free/libre open source software (FLOSS) licensing is due to innocent causes.
There is another Taiwanese company which is an admirable example of FLOS software and hardware contribution and community involvement: First International Computer (FIC).
http://www.fic.com.tw/
They founded the OpenMoko project which has been exemplary
(http://www.openmoko.org/)
and which provides FLOSS and open hardware designs. Additionally, they also produce computers which are more directly Eee PC alternatives.
I would think that even those who refrain from deriding Asus, would have more desire to see good contributors like HP or FIC flourish.

]]> By: Ben Armstrong http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-133 Ben Armstrong Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:23:58 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-133 There is room for improvement in communication between Asus and the F/OSS community. I do believe they acted in ignorance on the points you mention, Asus Hater. I have it from some contacts in Taiwan who are pushing for more F/OSS involvement by local vendors that they are intrigued by F/OSS but don't really understand it or know how to talk to us. Certainly things won't improve by insulting them or being openly hostile towards them. We need to make more of an effort to offer constructive criticism and strengthen ties with vendors in order to make the state of F/OSS vendor support better in the world. There is room for improvement in communication between Asus and the F/OSS community. I do believe they acted in ignorance on the points you mention, Asus Hater. I have it from some contacts in Taiwan who are pushing for more F/OSS involvement by local vendors that they are intrigued by F/OSS but don’t really understand it or know how to talk to us. Certainly things won’t improve by insulting them or being openly hostile towards them. We need to make more of an effort to offer constructive criticism and strengthen ties with vendors in order to make the state of F/OSS vendor support better in the world.

]]> By: iksaif http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-131 iksaif Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:37:51 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-131 They provided some Eeepc at the begining to developers. They created Eeepc community in sourceforge. There were Asus people on #debian-eeepc. Sometime their policy with Linux support is a little hard to understand, but I believe that they want to cooperate. It's just that hardware company are not very experimented with sending patch to upstream, so we have to re-do everything that has be done for the default xandros distribution. They provided some Eeepc at the begining to developers. They created Eeepc community in sourceforge. There were Asus people on #debian-eeepc.

Sometime their policy with Linux support is a little hard to understand, but I believe that they want to cooperate.

It’s just that hardware company are not very experimented with sending patch to upstream, so we have to re-do everything that has be done for the default xandros distribution.

]]> By: Asus Hater http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-129 Asus Hater Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:04:21 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-129 To say that Asus supports Linux is false. Asus are asses. They violated the GPL by not releasing the source code of their kernel modules or publishing the source but claiming it is not GPL (as in the case of Atheros). To say that Asus supports Linux is false. Asus are asses. They violated the GPL by not releasing the source code of their kernel modules or publishing the source but claiming it is not GPL (as in the case of Atheros).

]]> By: Linux-OS » Sobre el proyecto Debian EeePC http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-114 Linux-OS » Sobre el proyecto Debian EeePC Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:09:17 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-114 [...] llegaron para quedarse. Por eso, muy oportunamente, el equipo del proyecto Debian EeePC anuncia en uno de sus blogs que la actual versión 5.0 estable de esa distribución “Lenny” tiene un “buen [...] [...] llegaron para quedarse. Por eso, muy oportunamente, el equipo del proyecto Debian EeePC anuncia en uno de sus blogs que la actual versión 5.0 estable de esa distribución “Lenny” tiene un “buen [...]

]]> By: Harry Barracuda http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-107 Harry Barracuda Mon, 01 Jun 2009 10:07:06 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-107 Why whinge that ASUS support Microsoft? That's where their largest customer base can be found, so they'd be suicidal not to focus on it. There are so many Linux builds that run on the ASUS either OOTB or with a little tweaking, I have no idea why idiots like "Debian Rules" even bother writing such utter nonsense. Why whinge that ASUS support Microsoft? That’s where their largest customer base can be found, so they’d be suicidal not to focus on it.

There are so many Linux builds that run on the ASUS either OOTB or with a little tweaking, I have no idea why idiots like “Debian Rules” even bother writing such utter nonsense.

]]> By: Ben Armstrong http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Ben Armstrong Thu, 28 May 2009 16:56:01 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-106 There are certainly a wide variety of netbooks out there that look attractive, and it is indeed annoying that the best Asus Eee PC model on the market, the 1000HE, does not come in a Linux flavour. That being said, the Asus Eee PC line has tremendous support within Debian, something which should not be overlooked. Have fun with your new HP. I have tremendous respect for their support for Linux in general. There are certainly a wide variety of netbooks out there that look attractive, and it is indeed annoying that the best Asus Eee PC model on the market, the 1000HE, does not come in a Linux flavour. That being said, the Asus Eee PC line has tremendous support within Debian, something which should not be overlooked. Have fun with your new HP. I have tremendous respect for their support for Linux in general.

]]> By: Debian Rules http://syn.theti.ca/2009/05/23/bits-from-the-eee-pc-team-spring-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Debian Rules Thu, 28 May 2009 15:34:23 +0000 http://syn.theti.ca/?p=116#comment-105 Thanks for your work but I'm starting to be really piss off with ASUS and its M$ ass-kissing policy. For that thing, instead of purchase an ASUS I've just purchased a HP Mini 2140 with Linux. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/es/es/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-306995-306995-3872994-3912584.html Thanks for your work but I’m starting to be really piss off with ASUS and its M$ ass-kissing policy.

For that thing, instead of purchase an ASUS I’ve just purchased a HP Mini 2140 with Linux.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/es/es/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-306995-306995-3872994-3912584.html

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